Sunday, January 31, 2010

Re: [IBWiFi] 3 floor building WiFi Access

 

Hello

I´ve done similar config for a friend, but only two floors.

One router is the main one, which is connected to the internet via cable-modem.

From one of the 4 ethernet ports in the back (Linksys WRT54G), I ran a ethernet cable to the second router, connecting to one of the its 4 doors so it can be configured as AP (not a router) and sharing the same IP range of the main router.

They SSID is different so you know which one you are connecting to.

Put them also in different channels to avoid freq. overlap and now 8 computers on each floor can share files and internet as they are on the same network.

I dont know about 3 or more, but you will might need a cable for each of the routers (max. 4, I guess), or if you want to be sure, install a hub between the main router and the other AP will do the IP trick.

You can also use a repeater AP but the ones I have played with didn´t give me much confidence.

I hope that helps

Rod

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From: kkyabdul
To: InternetByWiFi@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:21 AM
Subject: [IBWiFi] 3 floor building WiFi Access

Dear Experts

I want to configure a WiFi for 3 floor building..each floor need to be connected to 5 -7 PCs.

How do I configure this?
How many Access points do I need?
How many clients?
Do I require Outdoor Aps? Indoor APS?

I am new to networking pls explain

Thanks

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Re: [IBWiFi] 3 floor building WiFi Access

 

Thanks alot for the prompt and informative reply.

I want to refine my question little further.

Could I use 1 outdoor AP( wireless) for the entire building ( which has 3 floors) and then connect to every floor's clients?

or should I have to go for a individual APS for each floor and respectively to the clients in each floor?

Thanks

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From: "kabrahamsen@comcast.net" <kabrahamsen@comcast.net>
To: kkyabdul@yahoo.com
Cc: InternetByWiFi@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 7:02:38 PM
Subject: Re: [IBWiFi] 3 floor building WiFi Access

 

I have something similar in my home - (basement/main floor/upstairs bedrooms).

Since most SOHO APs usually only come with 4 Ethernet switch ports, so to support 5-7 PCs on each floor, you'll also need a small Ethernet switch connected to each AP. If you're supporting 21 PCs, wireless/ network speed may not be satisfactory if everyone is heavily active at the same time.

How many access points (APs) you'll need will depend on:

1. Where the APs can be located to achieve needed wireless signal strength/network spe ed.

2. Whether you can physically connect each AP with an Ethernet cable or whether they can only be interconnected via a Wireless Distribution Service (WDS) infrastructure. I have 3 *older* Linksys WRT54G/WRT54GS APs that I loaded with Tomato firmware to achieve the WDS option. See http://www.polarclo ud.com/tomato

In my case, I was able to run a 100' Ethernet cable from the basement AP to the AP on the first floor, so this is a 'hardwired' interconnection. However, there is no way to run a cable to the upstairs, so the connection to the upstairs AP is via the APs wireless radio via WDS provided by the Tomato firnware.

For us, t his works well, as from an upstairs PC, I'm still able to stream Netflix online videos without stuttering/delays e ven though the data is traversing the wireless connection from the upstairs to the first floor AP, then down the Ethernet cable to the basement AP, then through another Ethernet switch that is then connected to m y network's internal router, and then out to Comcast. 

No 'clients' s/b needed, as all PCs would connect to the network as peers. SOHO APs are normally only designed for indoor use, though with proper weather and power  protection and cooling to prevent overheating in the Summer, I have seen them used outside.

hth,

Ken
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From: "kkyabdul" <kkyabdul@yahoo. com>
To: InternetByWiFi@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:21:49 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [IBWiFi] 3 floor building WiFi Access

 

Dear Experts

I want to configure a WiFi for 3 floor building..each floor need to be connected to 5 -7 PCs.

How do I configure this?
How many Access points do I need?
How many clients?
Do I require Outdoor Aps? Indoor APS?

I am new to networking pls explain

Thanks

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Re: [IBWiFi] 3 floor building WiFi Access

 



I have something similar in my home - (basement/main floor/upstairs bedrooms).

Since most SOHO APs usually only come with 4 Ethernet switch ports, so to support 5-7 PCs on each floor, you'll also need a small Ethernet switch connected to each AP. If you're supporting 21 PCs, wireless/ network speed may not be satisfactory if everyone is heavily active at the same time.

How many access points (APs) you'll need will depend on:

1. Where the APs can be located to achieve needed wireless signal strength/network spe ed.

2. Whether you can physically connect each AP with an Ethernet cable or whether they can only be interconnected via a Wireless Distribution Service (WDS) infrastructure. I have 3 *older* Linksys WRT54G/WRT54GS APs that I loaded with Tomato firmware to achieve the WDS option. See http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato

In my case, I was able to run a 100' Ethernet cable from the basement AP to the AP on the first floor, so this is a 'hardwired' interconnection. However, there is no way to run a cable to the upstairs, so the connection to the upstairs AP is via the APs wireless radio via WDS provided by the Tomato firnware.

For us, t his works well, as from an upstairs PC, I'm still able to stream Netflix online videos without stuttering/delays e ven though the data is traversing the wireless connection from the upstairs to the first floor AP, then down the Ethernet cable to the basement AP, then through another Ethernet switch that is then connected to m y network's internal router, and then out to Comcast. 

No 'clients' s/b needed, as all PCs would connect to the network as peers. SOHO APs are normally only designed for indoor use, though with proper weather and power  protection and cooling to prevent overheating in the Summer, I have seen them used outside.

hth,

Ken
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From: "kkyabdul" <kkyabdul@yahoo.com>
To: InternetByWiFi@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:21:49 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [IBWiFi] 3 floor building WiFi Access

 

Dear Experts

I want to configure a WiFi for 3 floor building..each floor need to be connected to 5 -7 PCs.

How do I configure this?
How many Access points do I need?
How many clients?
Do I require Outdoor Aps? Indoor APS?

I am new to networking pls explain

Thanks

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Re: [IBWiFi] 3 floor building WiFi Access

 

Your question is likely beyond the expertise of this group. Most of us
are individual users traveling in RVs, and most of our concerns are related
to that situation.

Still, we may have a "Network professional" in out membership who can help.

Fred White
Owner/Moderator
IB WiFi





In a message dated 1/31/2010 7:30:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kkyabdul@yahoo.com writes:

Dear Experts

I want to configure a WiFi for 3 floor building..each floor need to be
connected to 5 -7 PCs.

How do I configure this?
How many Access points do I need?
How many clients?
Do I require Outdoor Aps? Indoor APS?

I am new to networking pls explain

Thanks

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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[IBWiFi] 3 floor building WiFi Access

 

Dear Experts

I want to configure a WiFi for 3 floor building..each floor need to be connected to 5 -7 PCs.

How do I configure this?
How many Access points do I need?
How many clients?
Do I require Outdoor Aps? Indoor APS?

I am new to networking pls explain

Thanks

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Thursday, January 28, 2010

Re: [IBWiFi] Jeffa-tech to the test

 

ka8mbkcamper wrote:
> I just got a Jeffa-tech RV repeater kit. Now I am working under very trying conditions. The wi-fi in our park is really two routers in two locations. One has a router hanging in the window and that is over 1000 feet away. The other is a old old low power router on the back porch of a office about 8-900 feet away and up the hill. There is a large building between us. I have a -70-80db signal and good enough signal to stream radio broadcasts and also work other sites on the web. In my opinion that is fantastic. The base of the antenna is only 10 feet off the ground.
I've had similar luck with mine - I opted for the high-gain antenna. We
park about 350 yards from the wifi source, which, I believe, is inside a
building somewhere. Between us are about 6 trees, and a building. My
antenna is mounted on my Winegard batwing antenna on my Bounder, about
1/2 way up the antenna arm. I get an snr around 6 or so but I'm able to
get online with that most of the time to download emails.

Alan Hepburn
San Jose, Ca

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[IBWiFi] re Jeffa-tech to the test

 

Sorry I was thinking I had a automatic signature.
Jerry Wessel
at Leesburg Florida
Holiday Travel resort

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[IBWiFi] Jeffa-tech to the test

 

I just got a Jeffa-tech RV repeater kit. Now I am working under very trying conditions. The wi-fi in our park is really two routers in two locations. One has a router hanging in the window and that is over 1000 feet away. The other is a old old low power router on the back porch of a office about 8-900 feet away and up the hill. There is a large building between us. I have a -70-80db signal and good enough signal to stream radio broadcasts and also work other sites on the web. In my opinion that is fantastic. The base of the antenna is only 10 feet off the ground.

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Sunday, January 17, 2010

Re: [IBWiFi] ALFA AWUS036H driver for Windows7

 

Hi,

Try here:

http://osgroupinc.com/cards/alfa.html

The xp driver may only work in "compatibility mode".

Regards,

Don Rose

--- On Sun, 1/17/10, kkyabdul <kkyabdul@yahoo.com> wrote:

I am seeking a driver to install the AWUS036 ALFA USB adapter driver for Windows 7, any suggestion?

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Re: [IBWiFi] JefaTech

 

You need to go back to basics and further isolate what is not working. Does Windows recognize the device and show it as operating? Firewall not blocking it? That sort of thing... I don't have enough experience yet with Win 7 to help walk you through that, but hopefully somebody here does. Nor do I know enough about the Jafa Tech device you have to say what it should look/act like. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

Betti Ann and Preston Smith wrote:
> Thanks Gary
>
> The supposed Win 7 driver is not working - I can not connect to the
> adapter - maybe I am missing something in the Win 7 wireless setup
> (which is not like the XP/Vista setup) but at this point I can not get
> the Jefa adapter to run (even after I have enabled it and disabled the
> laptop's organic adapter)
>
> Preston
>
> Gary Brinck said the following on 16/01/2010 11:04:
>> The "may be a driver problem" means just that - the Win 7 software doesn't know about the driver and is merely giving a standard warning. Since Jafa Tech told you to use the driver, I would go ahead and give it a try. It the system becomes unstable, you can always go back to the restore point prior to the driver install.
>>
>> Betti Ann and Preston Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I recently bought a JefaTech USB RV Kit. It works well with my old
>>> laptap which runs under XP
>>>
>>> A few days ago I bought a new laptop - a Gateway N79 family device
>>> running under Windows 7
>>>
>>> I found the supposed drivers (as directed by Jefatech support) on the
>>> Jefatech web site but they are not doing the job - Win 7 tells me there
>>> may be a driver problem.

Gary
--
Gary & Nancy Brinck
2004 American Tradition 40V
2007 GMC Acadia
IBDC and Roaming Friends Group Owner

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[IBWiFi] ALFA AWUS036H driver for Windows7

 

I am seeking a driver to install the AWUS036 ALFA USB adapter driver for Windows 7, any suggestion?

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Saturday, January 16, 2010

Re: [IBWiFi] JefaTech

 

Thanks Gary

The supposed Win 7 driver is not working - I can not connect to the
adapter - maybe I am missing something in the Win 7 wireless setup
(which is not like the XP/Vista setup) but at this point I can not get
the Jefa adapter to run (even after I have enabled it and disabled the
laptop's organic adapter)

Preston

Gary Brinck said the following on 16/01/2010 11:04:
> The "may be a driver problem" means just that - the Win 7 software doesn't know about the driver and is merely giving a standard warning. Since Jafa Tech told you to use the driver, I would go ahead and give it a try. It the system becomes unstable, you can always go back to the restore point prior to the driver install.
>
> Betti Ann and Preston Smith wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I recently bought a JefaTech USB RV Kit. It works well with my old
>> laptap which runs under XP
>>
>> A few days ago I bought a new laptop - a Gateway N79 family device
>> running under Windows 7
>>
>> I found the supposed drivers (as directed by Jefatech support) on the
>> Jefatech web site but they are not doing the job - Win 7 tells me there
>> may be a driver problem.
>>
>

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Re: [IBWiFi] JefaTech

 

The "may be a driver problem" means just that - the Win 7 software doesn't know about the driver and is merely giving a standard warning. Since Jafa Tech told you to use the driver, I would go ahead and give it a try. It the system becomes unstable, you can always go back to the restore point prior to the driver install.

Betti Ann and Preston Smith wrote:
> Hi
>
> I recently bought a JefaTech USB RV Kit. It works well with my old
> laptap which runs under XP
>
> A few days ago I bought a new laptop - a Gateway N79 family device
> running under Windows 7
>
> I found the supposed drivers (as directed by Jefatech support) on the
> Jefatech web site but they are not doing the job - Win 7 tells me there
> may be a driver problem.
>
> Jefatech is closed until next week so there is no support at the moment
>
> Has anyone had any success with running this device under Win 7?
>
> Help and thanks
>
> Preston

Gary
--
Gary & Nancy Brinck
2004 American Tradition 40V
2007 GMC Acadia
IBDC and Roaming Friends Group Owner

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Friday, January 15, 2010

RE: [IBWiFi] Re: JefaTech

 

OK The router really works well. It allows us to establish a wireless
internet connection and wireless network within the RV. An example is here
we were getting 2 bars on reception without the JefaTech and 5 bars after
installing the JefaTech. Since you are having problems, maybe you could
make a deal with JefaTech regarding upgrading. Good Luck

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From: InternetByWiFi@yahoogroups.com [mailto:InternetByWiFi@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Betti Ann and Preston Smith
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:17 PM
To: InternetByWiFi@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [IBWiFi] Re: JefaTech

Hi again,

Yeah - we are talking about apples and oranges

Here is the Jefa Product I have
http://www.jefatech
<http://www.jefatech.com/product/RV-KIT-USB/Long_Range_WiFi_Kit_for_RVs__USB
.html> .com/product/RV-KIT-USB/Long_Range_WiFi_Kit_for_RVs__USB.html

No router so I depend on drivers in the laptop - therein lies my problem

Maybe I should ahve bought the router - might have been easier lol

Thanks again for your input and help

Preston

Dale Bonney said the following on 14/01/2010 20:53:
> Maybe, we are talking about two different systems from JefaTech. My
> system consists of a Linksys WRT54GL router modified by JefaTech by
removing
> the Linksys software and loading with DD-WRT software and some custom
> configuration software, I attach an external antennae to one of the
antenna
> ports. It is called the JefaTech Wireless WIFI Repeater. It can be seen
> here:
> http://www.jefatech
<http://www.jefatech.com/c=I39mvuRGZBorYNpcnrQhDfy28/product/RV-KIT-REPEATER
/> .com/c=I39mvuRGZBorYNpcnrQhDfy28/product/RV-KIT-REPEATER/
> Long_Range_WiFi_Repeater_Kit_for_RVs.html I have no knowledge of the
> Palm WLAN USB adapter with the Realtek RTL8187 chip.
>
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Thursday, January 14, 2010

Re: [IBWiFi] Re: JefaTech

 

Hi again,

Yeah - we are talking about apples and oranges

Here is the Jefa Product I have
http://www.jefatech.com/product/RV-KIT-USB/Long_Range_WiFi_Kit_for_RVs__USB.html

No router so I depend on drivers in the laptop - therein lies my problem

Maybe I should ahve bought the router - might have been easier lol

Thanks again for your input and help

Preston

Dale Bonney said the following on 14/01/2010 20:53:
> Maybe, we are talking about two different systems from JefaTech. My
> system consists of a Linksys WRT54GL router modified by JefaTech by removing
> the Linksys software and loading with DD-WRT software and some custom
> configuration software, I attach an external antennae to one of the antenna
> ports. It is called the JefaTech Wireless WIFI Repeater. It can be seen
> here:
> http://www.jefatech.com/c=I39mvuRGZBorYNpcnrQhDfy28/product/RV-KIT-REPEATER/
> Long_Range_WiFi_Repeater_Kit_for_RVs.html I have no knowledge of the
> Palm WLAN USB adapter with the Realtek RTL8187 chip.
>
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>

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